Join Sami Syrjämäki (TSV – Federation of Finnish Learned Societies), Jessica Dallaire-Clark (Érudit), Jeroen Sondervan (NWO – Dutch Research Council) & Per Pippin Aspaas (UiT The Arctic University of Norway) as they discuss different national Diamond Open Access funding models.
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How do you see academic publishing when viewed 150 years from now?!
Recording made April 8, 2025. First published online: May 28, 2025.
Thanks Anna for sharing this! And good news, there’s a written transcript available! (A great move for silent reading and catching up at your own pace 
). Here is the PDF:
Interesting discussion, thanks for this. I agree with the panel’s view that DOA is not going to replace commercial publishing anytime soon. There are so many vested interests and the Big Flip can’t happen as long as 1) institutions rate the importance of prestige (brand/university rankings/impact factors) above the Common Good, despite their soft and cuddly mission statements to the contrary and 2) governments protect corporate interests and tax revenues above investment in universal access to research. In the UK, Publishing (in the general sense) has traditionally been called the 5th Estate, the #5 career choice for children of the aristocracy. The other 4 ‘estates’ are still going strong so I wouldn’t bet my 2-man tent on that Golden Delicious apple cart being turned over just yet.
The EU can be the great hope for change in this area so more power to your elbow and thanks for the great work you’re carrying out for Diamond OA. Hopefully, our grandchildren’s grandchildren will appreciate it!
Thank you @PlutoBrett for your comment. But I’d like to slightly disagree with you and the panelists if I may. Personally, I am not working to provide a marginal alternative to a fundamentally unfair, inequitable, dysfunctional and inefficient system. And I don’t see why we cannot have the objective of reshaping the whole system from the ground. Are we going to succeed or not, and when, is another question and I agree that the answer to this type of question is uncertain. But it should not limit our ambition in my opinion. We should keep in my mind that the scholarly communication system has not been always shaped the way we know it now. It went through several fundamental changes, as illustrated in popular books on history of scholarly publishing such as Tesnière, Valérie. 2021. Au bureau de la revue: une histoire de la publication scientifique (XIXe-XXe siècle) . Paris: Éditions EHESS. and Fyfe, Aileen, Noah Moxham, Julie McDougall-Waters, et Camilla Mørk Røstvik. 2022. A History of Scientific Journals. UCL Press. A History of Scientific Journals. And some of these changes happened quite quickly.
I acknolwedge that we are facing a systemic change issue : it requires the coordination of all actors (including commercial ones) to move together towards another configuration. It is extremely difficult but not impossible and we can start working on flipping mechanisms that facilite coordinated transition towards a scholarly communication system built upon the principles of Diamond OA. To be continued then.
@mpaulhac Just shared the EAU report that provides a good indication on what to do next and emphasizes the question of coordination I mentioned earlier :
Cooperate and coordinate with other universities, research performing and
funding organisations, as well as researchers’ associations and learned societies.
The challenges of scholarly publishing are systemic, and no single institution can
tackle them alone. Universities should align their efforts with other academic
organisations, funders and research institutions. Cooperation and coordination can
be valuable for advocacy, policy development and implementation, as well as for
shared or “horizontal” services and infrastructures. Cooperation can also take place
within regional, national, European and global frameworks.